Posts by Evidently Apostate

bangalore and ynkot, thank you for the links. possible sans- that letter shows just how blatent the deception goes and i really appreciate the copy thanks.

black sheep having been duped for years it feels good to see all the lies, its kind of a cleansing process for me. i realize a dubs lights shut off as soon logic enters the converssation this is more for me right now.

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looking for specific misquotes

by Evidently Apostate in

anyone know where i can find where the org has used quotes from secular sources placed in thier litrature but were used out of context.

i know there are misquotes in the trinity brochure.

thanks.

Evidently Apostate

anyone know where i can find where the org has used quotes from secular sources placed in thier litrature but were used out of context. i know there are misquotes in the trinity brochure

thanks

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What's wrong with my friends?

by Alan_56 in

jw
friends

i really can't stand it when i can't go to someones house just because they are "worldy".

why can't i just be a normal teenager and be able to choose my friends whom ever they may be?

i told my mom i don't have any witness friends then she told me "well you better find some or else your gonna have some serious problems".

Evidently Apostate

hang in there alan your parents believe they are looking out for your best interest. would they allow you to have someone non jw over to meet them? if they feel they are supervising you maybe they would allow it. it might help them understand non jw kids are not the plague.

there is nothing wrong with your friends.

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Those Who Follow the Beast

by cameo-d in

given the warnings that "those who follow the beast" go into destruction....why would anyone follow the beast unless they thought they had no choice, or unless there was some gain to be had personally?.

could it be because many are misled into believing the beast is their salvation in some way?.

why would they cling to the scarlet robe of the harlot?.

Evidently Apostate

nice pic cameo. i always liked looking at old religious pictures especially the ones like dantes inferno, the ones that were a bit morbid

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Out and feeling lost, with no friends? Have faith! (my uplifting experience :D)

by teel in

maybe not many of you remember my anguish through the last year since i joined jwn.

in the meantime i lost my wife (the official divorce is due in ~two weeks), lost all my friends (thank god no family though, except the wife), battled the wts and sort-of lost.

just like most of you when you got through this experience i was lost and confused, coult not found my place in life.. i owe much gratitude to this board for giving me the much needed information and support that i am not alone, and what i'm feeling is not something unusual.

Evidently Apostate

feels good to have unconditional friends doesnt it? congrats on you moving on

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the first group shunned

by Evidently Apostate in

jw
friends

since my awakening i will sometimes write in a notebook it actually helps with the emotions.

anyway this was from the other day.. i had the chance to read the story of the samaritan man to my 2 little ones last night.

i have lost much of my desire to read any scriptures lately as i almost feel they are all tainted but i know my wife wants me to read to them tonight so my 9 yo girl picks the samaritan man story from the bible story book.

Evidently Apostate

since my awakening i will sometimes write in a notebook it actually helps with the emotions. anyway this was from the other day.

I had the chance to read the story of the samaritan man to my 2 little ones last night. i have lost much of my desire to read any scriptures lately as i almost feel they are all tainted but i know my wife wants me to read to them tonight so my 9 yo girl picks the samaritan man story from the bible story book. i didnt read it verbatum as this would bore them quickly so i told the story the way my kids enjoy it and afterward kissed them both goodnight. i had read them a few other stories but that one brought up a moral question so i searched online to find out who the samartans really were. (be warned the facts i write may not be perfectly accurate as far as dates and a few minor details anyway you can do your own research if so inclined)they were isrealites who descended from the tribes of ephriam and manassah they were isrealites. they were brought in as settlers to the land of cannan by the assyrians, they belived in thier own gods thus considered non jews by the hebrews and were not allowed to help rebuild the temple after the jewish release from babylonion captivity. in the second century antiochus epiphanies declared himself a diety and sought worship for himself declaring death to any who refused the samaritans repudiated all connection with the jews and conceded to the greeks mainly to avoid the death penalty. the jews were attacked for thier refusal to worship anyone other than yahweh. by the first century the jews hated the samaritans and looked at them as loathsome creatures as the bible shows in some verses. Jesus illustration showed that even though religoius beliefs were different and there was a negative view of samaritans it was not a jewish leader (elder) or even a high ranking jew(someone who might have even interpereted scrolls like the GB) who came to the (former jew)samaritan mans aid ( there was a class distinction in the two holy men in the bible btw). it was a regular jew that helped his religious enemy thus showing the love and kndness Jesus wanted us to display to ALL.

what a difference in teaching from jesus to the dogmatic way we are commanded to treat those of different beliefs and those who at onetime were called brothers but now have a differernt belief. i had to ask myself which viewpoint do i want to impress on the minds of my impressonable young children?

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Unbelievable CO Talk, scientists lie to us about earthquakes

by maninthemiddle in

just when i thought this stupid belief that earthquakes went up in 1914, here it is again.

4/6/2010.

this was a co giving the talk, the same one that ended with overlapping generations.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27642/earthquake.mp3.

Evidently Apostate

i had this discussion with my wife after the haiti quake and explained many of the same points mentioned above after watching a program on the question of increasing earthquakes which was debunked by a number of scientists. she looked at me like i was calling god a cheat and a liar, and walked away. truth i guess is hard to accept unless its twisted around and spewed from the platform

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Jehovah's Witnesses - God's representatives or prophets Watchtower Study

by wannabefree in

perhaps this has already been covered ... but .... this especially stood out to me like a sore thumb since the service meeting just days before covered the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. todays watchtower study from w7/15/10 pg 11 paragraph 18.

(paragraph 18) we too have the privilege of announcing.

jehovah's name and purpose.

Evidently Apostate

yeah, todays watchtower study was full of proud comments like "they will have no excuse" "listen or not they will know who is coming at armageddon" . lots of old ladies begging for the blood of babies. praise god!